http://www.poopedpastors.com/blogs/stout-monk-society-%e2%80%93-pt-4/ For Pooped Pastors By Pooped Pastors Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:49:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 http://www.poopedpastors.com/blogs/stout-monk-society-%e2%80%93-pt-4/comment-page-1/#comment-16737 Tom Wood Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:05:39 +0000 http://www.poopedpastors.com/?p=1353#comment-16737 Andy. i am sorry you had this experience with someone who should have been a safe place but instead spiritually abused you. Our stout monk group is one way to guard against the individual person mis-using his authority and position. I agree that we have to guard ourselves from spiritual abuse and the church is filled with spiritual abusers. Thanks for your response. Andy. i am sorry you had this experience with someone who should have been a safe place but instead spiritually abused you.
Our stout monk group is one way to guard against the individual person mis-using his authority and position.
I agree that we have to guard ourselves from spiritual abuse and the church is filled with spiritual abusers.
Thanks for your response.

]]> http://www.poopedpastors.com/blogs/stout-monk-society-%e2%80%93-pt-4/comment-page-1/#comment-16732 Andy Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:38:38 +0000 http://www.poopedpastors.com/?p=1353#comment-16732 I have had the "privilege" of being under a "stout monk." Frankly, I believe this label was a coded permission to be a jack ass to people who were different instead of loving the diversity in the body. My "stout monk" seemed to believe he could see into my heart and knew what my problems were. Even though when directly asked, it was quite clear he just did not want me around any more. That "stout monk" was not delivering hard truth, he was merely a harsh person with a new label to tout. As pastors, we must guard ourselves from the self-righteous attitudes and actions that accompany such labels. I wonder what it would look like for stout monks to own up to the ways they trample over people and staff? That would be a good discussion. In no way would I dismiss the difficulties of shepherding the flock and guarding the gospel ministry from the very real spiritual battles that we fight. At the same time, I have known many pastors who go to conferences, talk to friends at a distance and whose actual ministry practices look very different than the way they describe it to others. I hope the Stout Monk Society members will be even more stout about looking at their own actions to staff and parishioners. I have had the “privilege” of being under a “stout monk.” Frankly, I believe this label was a coded permission to be a jack ass to people who were different instead of loving the diversity in the body. My “stout monk” seemed to believe he could see into my heart and knew what my problems were. Even though when directly asked, it was quite clear he just did not want me around any more. That “stout monk” was not delivering hard truth, he was merely a harsh person with a new label to tout.
As pastors, we must guard ourselves from the self-righteous attitudes and actions that accompany such labels. I wonder what it would look like for stout monks to own up to the ways they trample over people and staff? That would be a good discussion. In no way would I dismiss the difficulties of shepherding the flock and guarding the gospel ministry from the very real spiritual battles that we fight. At the same time, I have known many pastors who go to conferences, talk to friends at a distance and whose actual ministry practices look very different than the way they describe it to others.
I hope the Stout Monk Society members will be even more stout about looking at their own actions to staff and parishioners.

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